When politicians in Mexico and South America take financial payments from corporations and billionaires, we call it “corruption.” When politicians in the United States take financial payments from corporations and billionaires, we call it “lobbying.” The process is identical.
Billionaire Citadel Investment hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin (pictured above, center) is one of the top purchasers of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for a 2024 presidential bid. In a recent article for Politico, Mr. Griffin openly explains what he expects from his investment in DeSantis:
WASHINGTON DC – […] He has given nearly $60 million to federal Republican candidates and campaigns this election cycle. That puts Griffin behind just liberal billionaire George Soros, who’s given more than $128 million to Democrats, and Richard Uihlein, who aligns himself with far-right candidates and organizations, at about $62 million.
[…] While he’s supporting one of this cycle’s biggest culture warriors in DeSantis, Griffin said most hot-button issues — abortion rights, battles over sex education and LGBTQ rights — don’t define his interests. He wants to improve the diversity of the GOP and blunt the vein of populism that has complicated the party’s relationship with the corporate world — two things he’s consulted with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy about. (read more)
(1) Stop the populist movement and (2) get the republican party back in alignment with the multinational “corporate world.”
Pretty blunt, but hey, he’s rich enough to be honest. So, there you have it…. This is what Griffin expects Ron DeSantis to do for him. Any questions?
(Source)
MAGA is a movement, not a person. But movements need leaders. Trump is the founder and leader, currently. But it seems illogical to put all the eggs in his basket. Even though President Trump is energetic, he is undeniably an older man. DeSantis gets bad ratings on this site, but this site is filled with Trump zealots. That’s just fine, Trump was a great President and, I think, got screwed in the 2020 election in some cases by his own party. But he is mortal and his current ad withstanding, DeSantis is mortal as well. We all are mortal, but our ideas, OTH, can live forever.
You are too reasonable and have too much common sense!
My issue with DeSantis is the Deep State backing him. In my opinion that is a BIG Red Flag
I agree. But we must remember that politics takes a huge amount of funding to make oneself visible to hundreds of millions of voters. Trump already had that notoriety through his business ventures and his television show. Plus he was wealthy enough to self-finance. That is what makes him so completely independent. We are very lucky to have a man like Trump leading MAGA. It is highly unlikely that our next leader will not need mega funding to continue the MAGA cause. DeSantis is building a war chest using both large and small donors. That’s not a bad thing to do.
Trump certainly did not self finance folks. Do a quick internet search of campaign donations to Trump for 2016, 2020 and current to his Pacs. And I don’t see a problem with that.
Most certainly Trump gets multiple millions of dollars in donations. If I am a representative Trump supporter, I get about five texts a day and several emails from Trump and every single one of them asks for money. Most of it goes to WinRed, the RNC money machine. Some of it goes to the Save America Pac. But that was not happening when he and Melania rode down the escalator to first announce his campaign. Then it was his own money.
Correct, but it’s the who that matters. Most of Trump’s campaign finances were small individual contributions from a great many individuals. I do not recall a candidate that has done that in my life time.
It’s WHY the RNC created Winred. ActBlue was created for just that purpose in 2004. Winred was happy with their billionaire donors…They had never thought about the contemptible “small donors” until Trump.
They were only 15 years late. And then they had to bully and grift their way into it, crap on a lot of small donors, threaten and bankrupt previous payment platforms that had custom-designed systems for the RNC, and threaten candidates with lack of funding if they didn’t use Winred for ALL their donations.
I despise them.
Find another site to contaminate. You aren’t among friends.
MAGA is a movement that you obviously cant understand TRUMP will be our president again period. De Santis will destroy his future presidential hopes if he goes against Trump he should wait then he will be accepted 😉
My research on him so far has finished that deal. As far as I am concerned.
He can keep his Joe O’Dea and Paul Ryan and just go waltzing with all those GOPe Money PACS up in N.E. USA, and whistle for them, too.
I was learning a lot about the background behind DeSantis that I didnt know before but, Wow, ad hominem attacks add nothing to this discussion or your credibility.
Just out of my allegiance to MAGA ideals I’m posting in defiance of your behavior. I’m a voter. I don’t have to be your “friend”. Why not keep this discussion an adult one?
Good question Pam.
Now that’s a very lefty cultist thing to say. WTF
I never saw any soliciting for donations by Trump People.
DeSantis already has a huge national presence through his governance during the covid lockdowns, protecting children, parents rights and cleaning up elections. The MSM covers him all the time. Lots of it negative but to the America First populist movement, he’s a hero. Aligning with Paul Ryan, Mitch and the RINOs will kill him politically.
And Joe O’Dea, Colorado
Trump was Right about That creature..
Trump has been right about EVERY person he has called out
No, in this corrupt times. aligning with these creeps will put him on top… No fighting …because what ever he does, will be backed by the deep state, because he will only do what they want him to do..
🤣🤣🤣 protecting children?? What? Up to 3rd grade? His silence in the huge child trafficking issue Fla has, or maybe it was his approving the death jab for babies to 5yrs. Get ur head out of the sand. Oh wait, i know maybe it is the MILLIONS of mosquitos he is allowing Gates to release into Fla. What a guy protecting those children like he is.
We are Blessed of God to have Trump as Israel was to have Abraham, Moses and Joshua and Samuel and Elijah and Elisha And King David, and Daniel.
NO LUCK INVOLVED. This is the Divine Hand of God.
And Trump was likewise Known of God from the Beginning and there were Markers before he was even born.
And more Markers before he was REKNOWNED by Humans.
1948 – DEFINED as The Year of The Return”
Israel came back on the Sabbath – which means there has to be an Appointed Word that is read in all Synagogues: Amos 9. “In That Day I will Raise up the tabernacle of David that is Fallen.”
11. In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David, the fallen hut or booth, and close up its breaches; and I will raise up its ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old,
12. That they may possess the remnant of Edom and of all the nations that are called by My name, says the Lord Who does this.
The Letters that are the Numbers 1948 = “You Shall Return” – that is what it SPELLS
Aleph + Tet + Dalet + Chet in Hebrew
Leader -Judgement of God – Way of Life – New Beginning
“The Oracle” by Jonathan Cahn” “The 5th Door” – Chapter 49. “The Trumpet Man”, pages 211-215.
“You Shall Cause the Trumpet of the Jubilee to Sound…” Leviticus 25:8-10
1867 Samuel Clemens went to Israel WITH A NOTEBOOK – LEVITICUS 26 AND PRONOUNCED what MOSES SAID, without meaning to quote Moses but in complete SHOCK at what he saw, the Utter ravaged Desolation of Israel.
Samuel Clemens is a Jewish Name:
Samuel:
Clemens:
APPOINTED SCRIPTURE for Samuel Clemens Last Day there – IS THERE IS AN APPOINTED MAN – “A STRANGER WILL COME TO THE LAND…”
1917 50 yrs later Another Jubilee – 1967 – the 6 day War, the rabbi – “Goren” means Threshing floor, but it is “Trumpet”. “Jubilee” also means “Trumpet”
The NEXT Jubilee is 2017 – WHO IS THE CENTRAL FIGURE of the 2917 JUBILEE? !!!
In 1967 then was fulfilled Ezekiel 37:
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
THIS WAS FULFILLED EXACTLY 2000 yrs later on the DAY of JUBILEE
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And the Law of Jubilees specifically commands that the trumpet ‘shall sound throughout all your land
THE ORACLE: Ancient Prophecy Foretelling Trump & End Times | Jonathan Cahn
21 Minutes to 26 Minutes Rabbi Goren – and David’s Threshing Floor – “GOREN”, 2 Samuel 24:18-24
A Certain Man is born Each Jubilee, during the time the Verses are being read in the synagogues all over, for it is a Sabbath and it is the PRE-SET Verses.
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Trump was born on June 14, 1946, a Friday sealed with the setting of the sun, the Sabbath
So a portion of Scripture already appointed for the day of his birth: “How to produce the trump.”
THIS trump had Special Times to be blown – it would sound to call the people, to summon its leaders, and to move the nation forward.” “It was also used to call for GOD’S HELP, for the Nation’s Deliverance”.
THEN among other startling events in his life – in 2017, PRESIDENT TRUMP SOUNDED THE PROCLAMATION on the Day of Jubilee The Jerusalem Declaration, that Jerusalem IS the CAPTIAL of ISRAEL – which was only ever done before by CYRUS.
2 Chronicles 36:22. Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the Lord spoken by the mouth of Jeremiah might be accomplished, the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,
23. Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, All the kingdoms of the earth hath the Lord God of heaven given me; and he hath charged me to build him an house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Who is there among you of all his people? The Lord his God be with him, and let him go up.
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It is Jubilee, THE LAND HAS TO BE RESTORED TO ITS RIGHTFUL OWNER. Romans 1:16; 2:10
So America gets Her Turn to be Restored!
Rabbi Goren’s original family name was Gorenchik. Gorenchik means Horn!
So the Man who sounded the Horn at the Western Wall was named “HORN”
The SCRIPTURE READ on TUMP’S BIRTH, was the Very Same Scripture that led Rabbi Goren to Blow the SHOFAR at the Western Wall in Jerusalem as Jerusalem was LIBERATED in the 6 Days War of 1967.
FIRST to the Jew, Then to the Gentile – Jubilee year 1967 – 2017.
DeSantis chose his lot with Ken Griffin.
I JUST GOT RAIN!!! PRAISE THE LORD!!! in South West Central Texas. YAY!!!
DEPENDING on WHO is doing the FUNDING and what they EXPECT IN RETURN FOR IT!
I haven’t seen any Good Guys in DeSantis’ RECENTLY ACQUIRED NEW FRIENDS.
We CAN build a large, MAGA, small-donor funding network, which will include a PAC to fund candidates, enough to be independent of RNC money. Campaign finance limitations will help us.
MONEY IS KEY. NO WINRED. AND the people that got screwed by Winred will help. Right.us (just bought by Anedot) will help.
We need PROFESSIONALS … Honest, pure MAGA, incorruptible people. We need to hire smart recruiters to find and fund good candidates (we don’t HAVE to take the crappy candidates that Con-Inc offers us), PR people. SM experts. Build state and local orgs. Volunteers alone won’t cut it anymore. WE HAVE TO GET VERY SERIOUS… It’s do or die.
Get 1/3 (27M voters) of 2020 Trump voters to give $10/month or more on autodebit (won’t work without it). Gives us a minimum of about $300 MILLION PER MONTH. That’s decent working money, respectable money.
Good accountants. Know FEC rules. Get stable EXPERIENCED people. Spines of steel. Build this from the ground up, have it ready to go as a 3rd party AFTER we have everything in place.
Won’t be a go for 2024. But it will give us a chance. I can’t see anything else as working…It’s kinda last chance.
True. And when a Person pleases the likes of Paul Ryan, Ken Griffin, Kevin McCarthy, Mitch McConnell and Joe O’Dea, That tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about that Person.
you are too reasonable and have too much common sense
Are you trying to skeer me?
Yes. Exactly. You CAN be judged by the company you keep’s donations to you.
Follow the $.
You can measure a man by the quality of his enemies.
I think you meant to say, memes.
Your LIKES speak volumes.
“A wise man never asks what another man serves, for only his actions will speak the truth.”
Seneca
64 AD
Agreed. The thing that gets me is when they say tie back in to the multinational corporate world. To hell with that. I’m doing all that I can to do as much business locally with small businesses that get their resources locally and get off of the woke corporation train that IS the problem
Exactly
I agree Osage, something is going on here, the left is pitting Trump against DeSantis, this is a ploy to get in fighting in the Republican Party. The Democrats are trying to handle us as we speak and this is their way of doing it. Let’s not fall for it.
DeSantis is and always has been a Deep state Trojan horse
YOU SEE THE WRITING! THANK YOU
Trump has a “reason” to live many more years. A purpose gives a person a reason to wake up and start slugging it out again, and again, etc. Trump will probably invite Kari Lake to join his ticket after she turns the AZ situation around in little more than 18 months. If she produces a miracle in AZ, you can expect her to be the next VP and thence the 2nd Maga POTUS.
Those less focused semi-MAGA candidates will watch as the one who brought them to the Dance, dances with another.
Kari Lake is a very good campaigner. None of us have any idea how she’ll be as a politician. Building coalitions to get things done is harder than most people think. Folks that come from the Corporate world often have a difficult time of understanding that “it’s my way” doesn’t work in politics.
Dude, where have you been? Coalitions no longer exist, if you don’t have a majority and sec of state then you’ll be twarted by the commies. It’s them or us, wake up friend.
Lake won’t do it. She won’t stab her state in the back to accept a worthless VP spot. She will make herself a star ‘without’ Trumps coattails, and run for it on her own record, IF she wants it.
I like the way she talks, but I’m waiting to see the Walk.
Except she is riding his coattails running on the MAGA movement
MAGA has great personal loyalty to Trump, and I’m not sure it can survive once he leaves public life. Expect anyone who is unwilling to “wait their turn” will be vilified. But that’s just how politics works.
MAGA is bigger than Trump. It put him in office. It will do that again tomorrow. It will clean out the state houses, the congress and the senate.
The problem is … those billionar donors expect DeSantis to liquidate MAGA, so it goes the way of The Tea Party.
No…this place is not filled with Trump zealots, unless people with critical thinking skills are considered “zealots” now.
I see parallels to the tea party,where ‘no name’ headed up it’s demise- Megan McCain s mug is in there . It saddens my heart because small gov and small businesses, principles that used to represent the right and MAGA are critical to it’s survival but corporatists want to dismantle that and stomp the base.
The Tea Party didn’t die> it just became the MAGA movement! The People that are TRUE America First will always see the *Light and the *Truth and will Find the *Way! Like Trump says our Freedom & Rights don’t come from Government they come from *GOD! This Battle is Bigger than we thought and President Trump just might turn into General Trump…if need be.🇺🇸 He promised he will never let us down. I for one believe him.
Your entitled to your opinion, which is full of bull shit.
Great discussion, thanks.
RDS is not America First, because he is financially dependent on a “Club” that is America last, and China First.
True. That is why he endorsed Joe O’Dea.
I think it has little or nothing to do with DeSantis as being moral or capable. Almost everyone likes what he has done in Florida. It’s the intent and pressure placed upon him to be the means of infiltrating, break apart, and destroying the so called “tea-party revival” known as the “Make America Great Again” movement. The people backing Ron DeSantis, to the tune of MILLIONS of Dollars, are investing in a Candidate that they can brand, package, manipulate, and eliminate the Deeply American Values Donald Trump channeled into. You call people in this forum “Trump Zelotes”, and I agree, there are some, but that’s not what’s being shown here by the Author/Publisher. It is the systematic rejection of the America First Policy that would restore patriotism, joy of membership in the nation, morality, ethics, restraint, both monetarily as well as militarily. It’s the rejection of the anti white male racism that has spread like lethal venom through the “Western World”
It’s also the fundamental rejection of anti reality philosophy that is currently governing the White House, House of Representatives, US Senate, and a significant part of the Governorships, State Legislatures, and Judicial Offices across the United States.
When So called Republican Leaders were getting primaried and defeated by genuine “Conservative Republicans” with moral backbones and the intestinal fortitude necessary in order to break up the so called “Uni-Party” back into a America focused, moral, ethical, return to traditional Constitutional principles “Republican Party”, the Corporate focused “Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan” Republicans chose to literally give the nation to the Leftist Democrats rather than to return to Genuine Conservative values, budgets, and all that Conservatism stands for.
These are the SAME PEOPLE that are now purchasing Mr. DeSantis for the SAME PURPOSE of eradicating “Conservative American” from “Republican Party”
While there are a number of Trump Loyalists, they aren’t what carries him to where he is. It’s the Independents, the Democrats that are disgusted with the detachment from reality they are seeing from their former party. It’s the mothers and fathers who refuse to sacrifice their children for this new alternate unreality being forced on everyone. It’s the Heartland of the Country that has been patient, but abused to the degree that they cannot open their mouths without being labeled racists, extremists, terrorists. For what? For believing in the “American Dream”? The Mitch McConnells of the Republican Party are the SAME as the Democrats. Their agendas match very well. They do not want their power structure altered. They do not want “new money” entering the “club”.
They have shown an absolute distain, rejection, and hatred for all Republican Voters, Independent Voters, and Democrat Voters, who align with the Political Philosophy of Donal Trump. It’s not “His” Philosophy. It is OUR Philosophy. He harnessed it and people respect him for that. But the combined forces of the Left and Right have united to destroy OUR philosophy. And now they have militarized the DOJ, FBI, ATF, CIA, NSA, National Guard, Local Police Coops, IRS, and in some cases, the Courts, against the American People. They have stated they way us and our Conservative Philosophy eradicated.
Mr. DeSantis will face a choice. He will accept the money and the demands of his backers. The same people who destroyed the Tea Party movement, Republicans in Office. Or he will betray them and do as President as he has done as Florida Governor. But that is unlikely. He stands to loose way, way too much. And there is no chance he is risking accidents happening to family. This is a deadly game. The Republicans have voluntarily given up “perceived power” to defeat the America First political philosophy. They will stop at nothing to destroy it all together. And they have done NOTHING to stem, curb, or even to attempt to reign in the Lefts destruction of Americans lives over political choice. Conservatives are LITERALLY DYING IN THE STREETS because the usurper was put on stage twice identifying all white male conservatives as domestic extremists by birth. It has been echoed by the corrupt media. The FBI and DOJ are on record via whistleblower leaks enumerating the war being waged against all conservatives. It’s not just the white males. It’s also the white females who refuse to vote left. It’s also the black Americans who refuse to stay on the Lefts “plantation”. It’s the Hispanic Americans who believe in the American Dream. Asian Americans as well.
So, ultimately, you are incorrect, because you missed the bigger picture of the war on conservatives, christians, and any other group who will not accept the “alternate reality” of the Left and Right of Obama and McConnell.
I appreciate your thoughts though. Mr. Sundance is spot on, whether it’s a pleasant reality or not. It is reality.
Excellent points, sir.
Great comment. I only wish I could give you more thumbs up for your very underappreciated thoughtful analysis.
I totally agree!
The ONLY thing he did for Fla was do what the Deep State told him to. Open it up, fight us on Covid the fake pandemic, look like a hero and behind their backs do shady shit they wont see because they will WORSHIP u for giving them their “freedom”. He has done NOTHING else except sign shite behind ur backs.
Also, you pointed out a massive problem with the movement. Donald Trump… Kari Lake? Marjorie Greene? who else is there? Those who are, have not come forward yet. By to immediately fall for the same infiltration and destruction tactics that felled the “Tea-Party” movement, would be a colossal mistake, because this time, THEY are playing for blood.
Hey Mr. Sundance. How about stepping in the ring?
There are two movements against the MAGA movement……….. communists – DeSantis is not communist; the other is the NWO/globalist, DeSantis is of that group. Check the data….the prior votes, the funding. DeSantis is a nice guy, I gather, but not MAGA
Haven’t seen the “nice Guy” face, yet. Just the “Not MAGA” face.
You hit that spot on!!
Nobody is mentioning how DeSantis stood up to the LBTQ bullies and Disney on many levels. He and Kristi Noem are doing what needs to be done today!
He had NO CHOICE AT ALL on that front. To not do that, he would today have NO PLATFORM at all, being indistinguishable at all from Crist.
Yeah but he has been silent about Disney because his billionaire donor told him to stfu
Did you read the article?
Big difference between leaning on Joshua, or congregating with Koresh, over the “disputed” fitness of the “elderly and frail” MOSES.
You can have your Koresh and eat your cake too. And certainly end up exactly where you deliberate chose to go, from your first Step.
If Ron DeSantis takes these people’s money he is no better than those who take money from George Soros! DeSantis will be in their pocket and beholden to big-monied donors, same Establishment game. They are trying to destroy the MAGA Movement. Don’t be manipulated by their trick to split the party! Open your eyes to what they are doing!
TRUMP WORKS CIRCLES around EVERYONE Decades younger than he is. DeSantis is now OWNED by the political BS just like the others. CORRUPTION will be his middle name as Ronnie is NO LONGER a FREE THINKING FREE man.
Trump’s energy OUT SHINES MOST people in their 30’s, 40 & 50’s. Trump is physically & MENTALLY ready & ABLE to get back into the HELM to UPRIGHT & then drive this SINKING ship called America, back out to open sea with a renewed ENERGY called FREEDOM FOR ALL.
Have you read this article or any others on here about how DeSantis will be bought and paid for by the GOP Club – or do you go straight to the comment?
READ.
I haven’t seen anything to support the articles contention that DeSantis has sold his soul to the Bushes and McConnells. He strikes me as aligned with Trump’s policies but differing from Trump in two significant ways. He is articulate and incisive in his statements without bombast. He knows, and has shown that he knows, how to navigate and thwart the deep state and pick a supporting cast which watches, not stabs, his back. Trumps ultimate failure was his inability to pick the right people. In the case of the AG’s office, not once but twice. Whoever he listens to when making appointment decisions have not helped him at all.
Trump should be saying to himself that he needs a running mate who supports his policies and has enough political clout in his own right to continue on for 8 more years after Trump’s second term ends. Insulting and belittling DeSantis is utter stupidity on Trump’s part and magnifies his greatest weakness, his monstrous ego – an ego which has prevented him from ever presenting an analysis of his failures, what led to them and why they would not be repeated in the future.
While I think that Trump has been right on every major issue and was pursuing policies which would have benefitted all Americans, his efforts have proven ephemeral. Biden has in almost every sense, scuttled the USS United States.
What we need in 2024 is a team which is in common harness regarding policies with a lead horse who can withstand and repel the slings and arrows of the naysayers while the wheel horse works behind the scenes to insure the administrators are marching in lockstep with Trump’s policies and the legislators are being forced to toe the line. Trump does not need another wuss like Pence. He needs a man as strong as himself who, unlike Trump, can subordinate his ego in the pursuit of Trump’s (and America’s) goals.
With the exception of allowing Fauchi and the Branch Covidians to run amok I would agree that DJT has been very solid.
In contrast DeSantis backed off the Fauchi Fascism in April 2020 setting in motion Free Florida. At the same time DJT was critical of Sweden for refusing to lockdown. Same day actually.
The response to Rona was DJT biggest mistake and is an unavoidable contrast between the two. One supported lock downs and the Branch Covidians and one opposed them.
As a reminder the same folks pushing the lock downs and masks and mandatory vax and closing the world down are folks who used the ‘crisis’ to further their political power and sought to implement their policy vision of a Great Reset.
So before we go claiming this or that person is captured by the WEF/Davos crowd let’s all remember the choices made when it counted.
Again I liked DJT as POTUS. Would vote for him again in the general election. But DeSantis refusal to kiss DJT ass isn’t a disqualifying thing for me.
Allowing Fauci to run amoke is no small thing.
Trump could not coral Fauci because he is Senior Executive S?. They can not be fired. Trump drew up an EO to make it possible to fire them but did not execute it.
Why is Ronnie in business with fauci. Research it. Why did Ronnie allow fauci protocol to murder people in Florida, gave the hospitals indemnity. Never did allow over the counter ivermectin. Why
Those are lies!
Desantis listened to doctors who knew ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were the answers. Never shut down Florida never shut down schools. #GetYourFactsStraight.
Don’t overlook the massive amount of funding required to run for high office in our nation. DJT had, and willingly spent, his own money as needed. Ron is not wealthy and has to rely on others’ open walkets. Pray that Ron understands the difference between using others’ support, and being sold into policy slavery.
HE KNOWS!
I do NOT know at all where you have been looking, but Paul Ryan publicly announced that his personal Top Choices for 2024 Presidential Republican Candidates is:
1. Ron DeSantis
2. Glenn Youngkin
3. Tim Scott
Ken Griffin put his choice in very crude terms and put most of his wealth on the line for it And published it. On Politico. It was carried by MANY news services.
Ken Griffin moved his Entire Citadel Investment company to Miami Florida.
DeSantis Campaign War Chest has RECENTLY been increased, AFTER his NEED FOR FUNDING THE CAMPAIGN for FLA GOV was ALREADY TIED UP and
IN THE BAG, Now a NEW warbag has BEAUCOUP $$$Mills in it, From Griffin, and from a Number of North Eastern USA-Based GOP PARTY PACS whose wealthy members are highly opposed to ANYTHING with the Trump Label..
If YOU can say in the MIDST of THIS article that you see no evidence that DeSantis Loyalties are as has been clearly delineated here. well, the Lights are Bright. You have clearly seen everything there is that needs to be seen.
Everything else is superfluous.
locally, I have seen SO many “R”s bashing Trump for desanctimonious , which I think is nonsense, they’re just looking for a reason to say they don’t like Trump’s personality. They are pathetic – the RINOs that want the mild Rs that never got anything done.
Dude I am Maga through and through, but Trump doing this was just plain STUPID. Even IF it’s true that DeSantis sold his soul to the devil, for God’s sake wait a few days, why give the commies some ammunition.
For the sake of the R candidates and the party????? Wait two friggin days…………..that’s a big ego right there boy.
I thought it was was fine.
He certainly campaigned for, and had RDS’ back while he ran for governor the 1st time.
He also told the crowd at the Miami rally to vote for RDS for governor again.
So give me a break!
At the FL rally he very noticeably didn’t invite DeSantis to attend? It comes across as petty, self serving and based on ego.
DJT can win my vote in the r primary. All he has to do is demonstrate that he will focus on the serious issues of the coming 2024 election cycle.
If he can aim his fire at d/prog instead of r until the primary begins it would help demonstrate he isn’t going to make 2024 about himself.
Regardless I will vote for the r nominee including DJT in the general. I am not certain the Only Trump folks are willing to do the same. It’s far too important to sulk and stay home if our preferred candidate doesn’t secure the nomination.
You missed all the rallies that DeSanctimoniousssss was invited to and skipped so he could attend GOP rallies in Upper N.E. USA, with Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, Mitch McConnell, and Luntz Frank
Correct and Ron hasn’t supported Trump at all amid constant attacks from the left and RINOs. It is more fishy than most people think and it’s clear that Ron is not an MAGA guy. How about loyalty and gratitude at least? He has been in talks with RINOs for a year. Mass Media and DS always want to paint Trump as petty, nasty and bully, but the last 6 years have proven there are good reasons for his each move, and most of what he said turn out to be true! Don’t expect any career politician including Ron will fight for we the people like Trump.
Yeah well the cat wasnt out of the bag then either.
Your owned by deep state once you accept their money!!
So hes now corrupt as the rest of the bought politicians. Desantis ruined his own…I think once people realize they wont be crazed over him.
I think people read way, way too much into his nicknaming. He literally does this to everyone who puts themselves political challenger against him. DeSantis chose to avoid the Massive Trump Rally and hold a separate one of his own. DeSantis deserved the elbow to his ribs.
Watch Ronnie’s ad saying he was gods chosen. He deserved that name
Nothing President Trump does is stupid. You don’t know everything there is to know about this. After all the slings and arrows President Trump has taken for the past six + years, that’s what you come up with?…that’s a big ego right there?
Honestly, I often wonder if this nation is worth saving. The complacency, the impatience, the lack of empathy and compassion, the lack of support, the lack of understanding and the quickness to judge (wrongly), the laziness in doing the research to find out what is really going on. It’s not that difficult. Yet people sit back and find it easier to just follow the ignorant crowd and post negativity online.
This will not win a war against the evil that is trying to destroy this nation.
It is the division among conservatives, that always has and always will destroy the peaceful, optimistic, obtainable path forward.
A house divided, cannot stand.
The pick is Donald Trump, until he is ineligible, defeated, or move beyond this veil. Until then, men with aspirations like Mr. DeSantis, ought to plant himself firmly behind, unified with, Donald Trump, UNLESS he chooses not to proceed.
Anything aside from this, accomplishes the Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton desire of division and destruction of the American First Political Philosophy.
***But this time, political loss means actual destruction to the people who back the America First Philosophy. Men, women, and children.***
You know this is true, because they are already being imprisoned, murdered, and plundered.
When one segment divisivenesses enough to be in the hip pockets of the DIM FINACIAL SUGAR BEARS, as the Sugar Bears lope off into Further Nether Regions of NIRVANNA….
THAT is a divisiveness Too Far and I just lost my grip on those fading fingertips slipping away from me.
not Conservative! Especially Yongkin & Tim Scott
I’m a political junkie and didn’t know Tim was in this election cycle, until I got a sample ballot.
I’ve only seen one ad and thought he was endorsing something else.
There has been no “I’m running for the Senate” at all.
I won’t be voting for Tim.
Like he said about the Mar-a-Lago raid…I’m going to “let it play out”.
He is not on my side anymore!
The school-choice Republican candidate will get my vote for the school board.
Maybe we can change the system from the bottom up?
I’m surprised that Ryan wouldn’t endorse Nikki Haley
Exactly.
It’s very easy for us armchair conservative MAGA warriors to find errors Trump made. Remember that this election was the 1st time in 50+ years we actually gained a populist America First President.
The swamp was as thicker than ever, and when Trump came in he was tasked with staffing literally hundreds of positions. And – like you or me or DeSantis – trusted the advice of the well-known , established (but Deep State) names around him. us. Good Grief. Trump knew his business associates after 25 years of brass knuckles Real Estate , but I daresay had little knowledge (or a naive knowledge) of the assholes who run all the Bureuacracies. They quickly, and cunningly (Like IAGO in Othello) suggested “Mr So-and-So” for this post, and “Ms So-and So” for that post up and down the ladder. He SHOULD have told the establishment to pound sand and stayed with Flynn. He should have fired all the top echelons of the DOJ and FBI and IRS, and EPA, and CDC, etc etc ad nauseum. He didn’t. But he quickly discovered who were his (and our) enemies in this collosal battle. Trump in 2024. Lake in 2028. and perhaps Candace Owens will be ready to join the ticket as VP then. Watch the left melt like the Wicked Witch with a good bucket to the head.
I agree with you! I think in 2024 the same mistakes will not be made. That along with the replacement of many RINO’s and wannabe RINO’s. If Trump wins in 2024, and really, 2022 will tell that tail, I think he should fire every single democrat that bowed and thanked him for keeping their job while they crossed their fingers behind the back. No mercy second time around. Hopefully with a strong republican congress, these next 2 yrs will be the clean up phase, and Trump can step in and go hamm on turning America around. And Every leader in the world shakes in their boots waiting to see their fate for the betrayals. Our ignorant PM in Canada first….Please!
Rik: You have to realize when DJT came in his concern was for his cabinet. Yes, the AG office was a political payoff. But most were referrals from the Heritage Corp and Federal Society. Mc Connell was only concerned with his own self aggrandizement and getting his wife a job. The cesspool he stepped into was against his “populist” view and looked for business as usual. In a second term, I would hope he would be more selective in picking his loyalists. As you stated , get rid of the AG, Wray, EPA, FTC, FED and HHS heads. Make Government accountable. I would go as far as to say, all Intelligence agencies have oversight. Repeal the patriot act. Investigate CCP influence in our government and Press.
I really LOVE Candace Owens without Reservation. I really like what I see in Kari Lake for the most part, just waiting to see what matures out, as I Watch and Learn, bcz she is New to me.
Unfortunately Candace Owens has been compromised via her new husband. She is now tied to the Rothschild’s.
https://aim4truth.org/2022/10/13/candace-owens-glorifi-tied-to-rothschild-sons/
We do in fact need Trump, he has proven results. DeSantis is a great Gov, but he doesn’t have what Trump has. Trump surrounded himself with awful deep state, let’s hope this time he won’t. Trump’s foreign policy was excellent and world leaders respected him.
I voted for Trump twice. He did make America feel better about being Americans. He ran up against the swamp and don’t ever forget that the Republicans never went into recess and allow for recess appointments. If he runs again, I would like to hear his strategy for overcoming the swamp. I’d like to believe that he’ll have insiders who know how to really drain the swamp. It was no smaller at the end of his term than it was when he got there. If he doesn’t the election will be a repeat of so many we’ve seen in the past few decades where both sides run on the platform that “I’m not the other guy”.
This Time, God’s about through watching individuals make their final decisions, and His Hand is on the Move.
SOON, it will NEVER be the Same, Again.
Many won’t even know what happened.
Ron said nothing about the unprecedented illegal FBLie raid on Trump’s home.
He was in hiding for a week and then emerged as a POTUS candidate for 2024.
I believe he has spoken about it.
You could say that. There was that little mention.
Somewhere in there…
He said plenty about Trump offending him for his endorsement of Super Rino Joe O’Dea, who was in a PRIMARY RACE against another REPUBLICAN who has Genuine Conservative Values.
I guess I would ask , would President Trump take donations from a man who wanted to
(1) Stop the populist movement and (2) get the republican party back in alignment with the multinational “corporate world.”
Follow the money. I hope he hasn’t. He’s a good young powerhouse. But the money tells an alarming story. The Author is not incorrect. Turn back the clock and look at how they infiltrated and corrupted the Tea Party Conservative movement. Big money from the same places, turncoat republicans elected as “tea party” who once in office, aligned with the money they received. Again, the author is not wrong. Time will tell on Mr. DeSantis.
Already in the Bank. So Sad, too bad.
Had to go back to the article to pick out the specific instances of DeSantis’s GOPe..ness. Not protesting Maralago and not going to Trump’s rally. DeSantis, if all reports are true, has Presidential ambitions and knows how the Deep State plays the game. If he were to tip his hand regarding his attitude towards it now, he would simply be pulling the carpet out from under his own feet before he even had a chance to begin his move towards higher office.
The Deep State would take immediate notice and begin to undermine him. HIs protesting Maralago would have zero effect on what did or didn’t result form it and would do him personal damage. If I am right, his goal would be to get into office and then begin dropping the hammer all across the Executive Branch’s Agencies. Given Trump’s attitude towards him which he is probably well aware of, why would he go to a Trump rally as second fiddle and be greeted with ridicule?
What is in the donor’s mind and what is in the mind of the recipient aren’t necessarily the same thing. Moreover, the donee has no obligation to do anything other than give a polite “thank you” as he accepts the money.
DeSantis did condemn the raid the very next day. There is a video posted of a press conference, on the page before this one, where DeSantis condemns the raid at least for the 2nd time exactly a week later.
Not very enthusiastically.
DeSantis didn’t even write President Trump’s name in his initial tweet, and that for some weird reason, came for his personal account?!
So he didn’t light his hair on fire???? Does it still count.?
No, all things ALL added together, it was a LIMP comment and escaped notice almost universally – bcz DS was too busy being out of state at GOPe MONEY PAC Rallies at the time.
I’m afraid DS just flat overshadowed himself with his “concern” for the friend who bailed him out of the loss in 2018, First Term.
Lee Zeldin was the tell. A strong man, a moral man, a man with a plan to follow his own dictates and not those of his moneymen, would have kept his commitment. Desantis is bought and paid for. He can’t help being a follower, but we need a leader to stand up to the McCarthy/McConnell regime.
Lee Zelden……….please tell us about the tell????
DeSantis is too busy rolling over having his tummy rubbed by the same McCarthy/McConnell McDisaster Twins
DeSantis tipped his hand with Joe O’Dea
https://coloradosun.com/2022/06/01/ron-hanks-joe-odea-senate-race-issues/
6 big areas where the two Republicans running for U.S. Senate in Colorado disagree
State Rep. Ron Hanks and Joe O’Dea, a first-time candidate who owns a Denver construction company, are split on abortion, climate change and how to beat U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet in November
Jesse Paul
4:05 AM MDT on Jun 1, 2022
and with the relocation of the Citadel Investment firm. Paul Ryan and Frank Luntz tipped their hands.
DeSantis’ Party Tour of GOP PAC rallies tipped his hand.
What about a Trump/Gabbard ticket? She was a registered democommie most of her life and now I am not sure where she is,
other than she defended our country in the Army and is very smart also.
My top choices for Trump’s VP are Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard, in that order.
I’m with you on Paul, but as much as I like Tulsi? I still want more proof. Most likely Adam wouldn’t have ate the apple if Eve didn’t entice him.
Kari Lake
GABBARD is fool’s gold.
Love Kari Lake!! She always knows what to say & she is fearless.
Kari Lake is one of the best campaigners that I’ve seen in a very long time. We have no idea how she is going to be as a politician. Actions folks, not words.
Rand Paul is great on some stuff. He’s also a Pacifist in the Oldest sense of the word.
I would refer you to Patrick Henry.
I’ve watched Paul since people were raving about him when his Dad was still the LONG-TIME top political dog in that family and Paul was such a newbie people didn’t usually know which way he was going to jump.
There are HUNDREDS of REASONS as SOLID as the Sun in the Sky to NOT go to any denizens of Washington DC for anyone that is to be assigned to DC in the Political Realm.
BAR NONE!
One thing is some reliable rumors that the investigators of Election and Vote Fraud are hinting very broadly in deed, that hunting for a “LEGITIMATE NEEDLE in the HAYSTACK of DC” is a totally wasted effort. AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
I SINCERELY mean NO PERSONAL SLIGHT to any ONE PERSON at this Particular Time.
However the HINTS floating on a firm foundation (Whatever a “Firm Foundation” actually MEANS these days), suggest NO EXCEPTIONS at all. And THAT foundation’s reputation is AT LEAST As Good as even Rand Paul’s.
I want someone whose INTEGRITY is more solid than any other credentials. That won’t be easy. But it has to be someone who has NOT BEEN MURDERED, as of yet, BECAUSE of their High Integrity – in the Current Atmosphere.
Pardon me, but My Memories go back to FRESH revelations of WWII, where at times, the Most Trusted person in a VITAL WWII Organization turned out to be the one selling their own team out. and MORE.
So to say I am a pretty bad Skeptic is an understatement. But I have seen Rand do things politically I would never approve. Not trying to be a perfectionist.
I probably would be looking at a wide range of the amazing investigators of Election Fraud, Personally. The last two years have shown us some staggeringly dedicated people who have persevered in the Most Amazing Manner in the face of tremendous adversity and personal damage.
But a lot of Political actions fall on One Side OR the Other. PERIOD. And as I said, Regarding Pacifism – Patrick Henry.
I would add, that Thomas Jefferson made a remark about what he felt like when EVEN his enemies praised something he had done.
Pacifism is a Dangerous attitude. … I would also say, Pacifism is one of the strongest Qualities responsible for where American Politics and Justice is TODAY. And that is an UNDERSTATEMENT, in my opinion.
And is NOT to be confused with the ANTITHESIS of WARMONGERING, either.
One can be a MARVELOUS PEACEMAKER without being a PACIFIST.
Tulsi Gabbard is interesting choice. I do like how she speaks her mind, but don’t know enough about her policies.
No Pacifists, thank you!
Patrick Henry said it ALL.
She needs more time to prove she has truly seen the light. I try to remember that Ronald Reagan and President Trump were both Democrats at one time. Of course, the Democrat party of 1965 was a little bit different than the Democrat Party of today.
Gabbard? Please. She is WEF and CFR.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard
FTA: “She was a participant in World Economic Forum Young Global Leaders program,[7][8][9] and former 5-year Term member of the Council on Foreign Relations ending July 2019.”
Sounds like the cutesy little girls, Gabbard and Lake, have everyone frothing at the mouth to support them. IMO, neither is “fer realz.” The Uniparty has sent them in as decoys to lure you to vote for your destruction. Proceed with caution.
I was talking to my wife the other night about this and I said “gee Obama has Biden for and insurance against impeachment, Biden has the genius Harris. Why not pick the mama grizzly from Alaska Sarah Palin? The left would go frantic.
That just is not sufficient.
Gabbard is an opportunist. It’s very easy to be pretty and talk a nice “approved” talk on FOX. It’s not so nice when the bad ass Media and the big tech start throwing cow pies at you. She has not faced that music yet. She’s not a good choice, based on what she has NOT done, and NOT faced, in the easy peesy 4+ years since she left the Congress.
Really? Do you forget the Presidential debate when she was running for President? She handled the media very well as she was going after the other candidates.
H. E. DOUBLE DOUBLE Hockey Sticks – NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I am sure you cannot hear me, but I am NOT going to raise my voice above a whisper for that stink bomb.
Can’t completely figure out DeSantis. Been quite an effective governor. I seriously doubt he will kiss the ring on Trump’s finger with bended knee. However one should always be suspicious of all politician’s motivation when billionaires start sniffing at their ass.
AND they have already taken the Billionaire’s MILLIONS…..
Well, it seems safe to say DeSantis is running for president in 2024
DeSantis has ‘extraordinary’ billionaire support, with at least 42 backing him. Who are they?
Zac Anderson | USA TODAY NETWORK – FLORIDA
https://eu.tallahassee.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/05/25/ron-desantis-campaign-billionaire-supporters-florida-governor-election/9707459002/
You get the queasy feeling they are preparing to take President Trump OUT by hook or by crook, and Ron DeSantis will be used to “make it OK.”
And DeSantis is a Gov, that doesn’t mean he’s qualified to be POTUS. Trump is unique & he’s no Trump.
“Griffin said most hot-button issues — abortion rights, battles over sex education and LGBTQ rights — don’t define his interests. He wants to improve the diversity of the GOP and blunt the vein of populism that has complicated the party’s relationship with the corporate world —”
That’s precisely the problem with the GOPe: Culture war window dressing paid lip service only, while on the really important issues they are globalist sellouts no different than the Democrats.
Why has PDJT endorsed Sen Rubio?
Rubio was a Warner/Turtle stooge who participated in a cover-up.
Trump is a pragmatist first and foremost. Rubio is going to win with or without Trump’s endorsement, giving it costs Trump nothing and avoids needlessly antagonizing the GOPe.
Very pragmatic keeping Sessions for two years. And then enter the fat man to run out the clock.
Tto keep a full-blown Dim out of it.
The JOKE is on anyone who believes that Ken Griffin is a Good Guy! I have lived in Illinois all my life. (UGH!) Ken Griffin has screwed up our state ROYALLY! He is a Progressive. He gave 10 million Dollars this season to Richard Irvin to run for GOVERNOR as a REPUBLICAN! Richard is a Democrat all his life and for 10 million dollars he put an (R) after his name, and ditched the (D). Richard Irvin is PRO-Defund the POLICE, PRO-Black Liver Matter and PRO-Illegal aliens. Excuse my french, BASTARD!
Absolutely.
https://democraticgovernors.org/updates/mayor-irvin-was-an-outspoken-supporter-of-the-black-lives-matter-movement-but-candidate-irvin-now-says-he-faked-support/ THIS is who KEN GRIFFIN gave 10 million dollars to! NO THANKS! KEN IS A PROGRESSIVE!
AMEN!
I guess folks want to believe that Trump and other candidates that they love don’t take huge Corporate donations. It’s a pretty easy internet search folks.
Keep on plugging away little feller, but nothing changes the fact that RDS is bankrolled and endorsed by the exact same scum that have continuously attempted to destroy Donald Trump.
We were hung out to dry with Fauci, lock downs, harrasment etc. Trump recommends the jab, Desantis fought the fight. I highly doubt DeSantis appointing a Wray cuck, or a Sessions, or the Bush bagpiper. I haven’t forgotten Trump allowing sessions to cuck around for two years before picking the bagpiper to run out the clock.
Sessions offered Trump his resignation the day after he recused. How did all that work with trying to get along with the deep state work out for him?
Until I see evidence that DeSantis is going to go the way of McTurtle, I will say Trump should have held his fire. The man’s ego just will not let him entertain that he makes bad decisions every now and then.
Desantus pushed the jab. He went Florida encouraging people to take it. Stop lying he is vaccinated. He took the first jab
Sorry Mr. Griffin, the populist genie is out of the bottle. While you may buy a politician, we have the votes to veto your ideas.
I don’t understand the comment? three way skull and bones what? That makes no sense to me.
I just want to be sure everyone understands Griffin is the evil of all evil robbing Americans blind. Ask all the people who chipped in to save AMC stock and GAmeStop. Griffin robbed all of them and it continues today.
Not to mention, he just told all of us his intentions are to completely destroy the entire MAGA movement. F Griffin and F Desantis for taking his money.
The following story shows just how bad Ken Griffin’s money can corrupt Republican politics and politics in general
By March of 2022, there were three candidates in the Republican primary for Illinois governor.
Darren Bailey, a Southern Illinois farmer, was the grassroots, MAGA candidate. He made the greatest effort of all the candidates to campaign frequently in every region of the state.
Paul Schimpf, a former state senator from the Southern Illinois suburbs of St. Louis, was the MAGA Lite candidate.
He was the candidate who was as comfortable campaigning with the grassroots at a Southern Illinois county fair as he was at wheeling and dealing with the establishment elite in Chicago and Springfield.
Gary Rabine, a driveway paver from suburban Chicago, was the candidate for the Charlie Kirk / Turning Point USA type of Republicans. He campaigned almost exclusively in the Chicago area.
In March, the Ken Griffin backed RINO establishment candidate for Illinois governor, Richard Irvin, announced his entry into the primary despite the fact that the other candidates had already been campaigning for months.
Irvin was the former Democratic mayor of Aurora, which is a suburb of Chicago. He had little name recognition outside of Aurora.
Irvin still had liberal social stances and milquetoast fiscal policies. His transition to the Republican Party was in name only. Irvin’s personal life seemed sleazy.
Irvin’s late entrance into the primary was joined with an overwhelming onslaught of political ads and endorsements from RINOS at all levels of government from all corners of the state.
Irvin immediately went from being mostly unknown to having more ads and endorsements than all the other more established candidates combined.
Madison County, in Southern Illinois near St. Louis, provides an example of how RINOs at all levels and all regions of Illinois were mobilized to endorse Irvin.
Like most other locales in America, the RINOs in Madison County like to masquerade as grassroot conservatives, but they were forced to drop their masks and publicly out themselves due to a very public fight over property tax reduction.
The grassroot, conservative Republicans in Madison County government were strongly pushing for a particular policy that would lower property taxes. This grassroots faction was led by the county board chairman.
This movement became so strong that the RINOs in the county government were forced to publicly side with the Democrats in a desperate effort to curtail the power of the county board chairman.
The very same Madison County RINOs who openly and publicly sided with the Democrats against the grassroot conservative Republicans were the same RINOs who endorsed Richard Irvin immediately after he announced his candidacy.
These RINOs all used the same argument that Irvin was the only Republican gubernatorial candidate who was electorally viable in the Chicago area and that grassroot conservatives needed to hold their noses and vote for Irvin since he was the only chance for Republicans to win the gubernatorial race.
Thankfully, Darren Bailey easily beat the RINO Irvin and hopefully Bailey beats Pritzker.
I already early voted for Bailey
Im afraid the combination of Chicago idiots and suburban soccer moms, plus nonstop fraud will make it impossible for him to win
Oh rubbish. Desantis went after Disney despite it being one of the biggest Fl corporations. He took a risk with a huge donor to do the right thing.
I’m a Trump convert. His successes made me believe. But his frequent unforced errors aided our enemies. Desantis hasn’t made one yet.
He didn’t risk one penny on that stunt. He could NEVER have won without doing it and Disney has Big Boy Pants and knows it.
Now DS can get away with MURDER – FOR Disney’s sake, bcz of it. Disney knows that.
But Ronnie’s attacks in Disney are no more, his billionaire told him to stop. face it widdle Wonnie is owned
If this is true, why haven’t we seen or heard any of this from Ron, himself? He specifically protected FL from vaxx mandates, he’s stood up to the Government schools and teacher’s unions.
Ron’s record on Cvd and schools is NOT what it looks like on paper.
Donald J. Trump for POTUS in 2024…..YES! However, Donald J. Trump as SOTH in 2022….. Delicious!!!
Sounds like RONNIE is BOUGHT & PAID for, AKA OWNED & NO longer an INDEPENDENT person since a billionaire will PULL HIS STRINGS like ALL the other Corrupt POLITICIANS.
This is simply… Trump was chosen by The God of Abraham to do a Great Work… like Moses or King David or John The Baptist! Now DeSandis like Obama & Clinton were chosen by man to get rid of The Chosen like Trump… Gods Word is FINAL… You all get to choose who’s side your on however it comes also with suffering the consequences for your choosing! Be WISE in choosing!
Kassandra K. Swann Author of The Novel in Chapter Eleven!
DeSantis just sold his SOUL to the Devil. BYE BYE RONNIE! You shot yourself in the foot. Why couldn’t you just be more like TRUMP. YOUR OWN MAN?
The deep state paid a ton of money and they will demand compensation if he won.